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27 October 2013 @ 10:17 pm
True Love  
OMG, JMo is flawless. I saw a link to an article in which she addressed the topic of Swan Queen and despite my heavy heart, I could not prevent myself from clicking on it, even though I expected the worst – after insensitive comments from Ginnifer Goodwin and other actors on the show, I had every reason to believe it would be more negativity. AND YET.


“We’re doing a show about fairy tales, which is about self discovery, it’s about identity. And if you guys are watching the show and seeing yourself in it, then great, that’s awesome. It warms my heart and it makes me so happy.”







♥__________♥ HOW IS SHE SUCH UTTER PERFECTION? This is deserving of serious adoration and praise, imo.




On a related-but-less-positive note, I’m a little annoyed that the show is getting accolades from fans for semi-hinting at the possibility of perhaps featuring a bisexual character. Sorry to be a buzzkill and I’m not trying to police people’s reactions or insinuate everyone should share my opinion, but speaking solely for myself here, no, unless they bloody well make it canon like they have for every other het couple, they don’t get brownie points for beating around the bush and not coming out, so to speak, by making it clear exactly who Mulan is in love with!





When True Love consists of a male and female with an obviously requited passion for each other in 100% of the pairings on the show (despite characters not even being the SAME SPECIES in the case of Nova and Grumpy), I’m not inclined to give them a medal for playing it super coy here. Especially when it’s apparent that Mulan and Aurora can't be True Loves anyway, given her and Phillip’s relationship – so even if Mulan was in love with Aurora, it’s doomed from the start, how fabulous of them to giveth with one hand and taketh away the next second.





Commit to femslash in the same way all the other ships are written on the show (although that's a double-edged sword, lol, given the rushed way some are depicted) and I will praise the writers to the heavens, but from my cynical POV, this seems like a way of having their cake and eating it, too, being able to reference Mulan/Aurora and pat themselves on the back for striking a blow for equality when they’ve put zero effort into establishing it. Fandom’s done 99.99% of the work for them! I get that when there’s so little representation, it can be exciting to squee over this half-assed shout-out to Sleeping Warrior, but just because the writers have such low standards to live up to doesn’t mean they should get lauded for this. I’m sick of queer-baiting, it’s a way of increasing ratings while showing no real progress diverging from the heteronormativity in the media.





The fact that fans can argue that Mulan was referring to Phillip in this scene shows a huge contrast to anything featuring other canon pairings like Snowing or Rumbelle, etc. Everything's spelled out for those characters, but here, Mulan's conveniently prevented from making her declaration out loud and negating all the arguments and back-peddling happening in fandom right now.

But JMo dealing with the notion of people shipping her character with Lana’s in such a gracious and understanding way? When so many other actors have been complete douchebags about it? (Seriously, google Ginnygate, I can’t even) I COULD LEGIT CRY FROM HAPPINESS RIGHT NOW.





...and then I saw this on fandomsecrets...





...and read the accompanying comments and my mood promptly plummeted. >_< Ah well, nature abhors a vacuum, can't lift me up without bringing me down again soon thereafter, typical.

ANYWAY. Speaking of True Love…I adore this song for Swan Queen, lmao.




 
 
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Dark Star: Emma Swordsanalith on October 27th, 2013 01:36 pm (UTC)
JMo is such an amazing woman. Even if you don't ship something, there's no reason to tear down people who do, especially when those people are fighting so hard to find representations of themselves in media.

Also, I apparently missed Ginnygate. I shall have to look that up.
borg_princessborg_princess on November 1st, 2013 01:12 am (UTC)
She's seriously inspiring me rn, I love that she's not shaking her head at fans or being condescending or judgmental at all, that statement is so beautiful. *twirls* Love your icon, btw! ♥

GINNYGATE. X 2! Because once wasn't enough! There were two tweets I remember head!sploding over - one was about how Regina/Emma is incest because Regina's her grandmother...



*headdeskwallfloor*

And the other was dismissing the possibility of Swan Queen because OUAT is a family-friendly show, 'it's not Once Upon A Time In My Pants'.



!!!!!!!
ladysophiekittyladysophiekitty on October 27th, 2013 04:25 pm (UTC)
Aw, that is a nice comment from JMo!

Can you put the flashing text behind a cut, though? I'm a bit sensitive to that kind of thing. Thanks!
borg_princessborg_princess on November 1st, 2013 01:03 am (UTC)
I'm so thrilled by her response, I can't even. <3

And sorry for the belated edit, I'm not on lj much and it doesn't seem to love me either 'coz I haven't gotten email notifications for comments on this post *side-eyes* but yeah, taken out that gif now, better late than never!
Hoshihoshinekoyasha on October 28th, 2013 03:16 am (UTC)
ten points to slytherin for the cordy gif.

I had to quit ouat because this is how the writers treat sq :(


Edited at 2013-10-28 03:25 am (UTC)
borg_princess: lizabeth-right or wrongborg_princess on November 1st, 2013 01:06 am (UTC)
She has perfect reactions to everything, ha.

And ugh, that gif is painfully accurate, OUAT PTB are the worst. I quit it halfway through season 1 when they brought August in and diminished Emma's agency and it's only gotten worse. Living for the fandom, tbh.



obv not including the fans that are anti-SQ
Hoshihoshinekoyasha on November 1st, 2013 08:44 am (UTC)
ditto
Mistmistaria on October 28th, 2013 06:02 am (UTC)
Aaah I missed you. I always liked the idea of SQ in season one but I started reading fic and got super sucked in during season two and now we've got these beard of the week episodes for Regina and Emma while they also get super COME ON romancey scenes. Regina got jealous about Hook after Emma said she wouldn't "combine" with her!! What was the motivation for that?! ::shakes the writers::

I couldn't agree more about the Mulan/Aurora stuff. It is complete and utter bullshit and like the Robin Hood being "meant" for Regina bullshit seems to have been planned at the last second and was so poorly executed. I doubt we'll even see Mulan again until maybe the end of the season now that precious (wimpy, ugly, cowardly) Neal is in Neverland to try to get back with the woman he abandoned and put in jail 'cause Pinnochio told him to. Don't even get me started on last nights ep and how the writers did a classic and damaging "no means yes" plot with Hook and Emma.

Will watch the fanvid later yay.
borg_princess: scully-feel your painborg_princess on November 13th, 2013 01:20 am (UTC)
*snugglesquish* Thanks, bb!

And ahaha, I love your pov on SQ! I don't watch the show anymore, but I read reviews and recaps and the SUBTEXT, good lord! Great fodder for the ship, mwahaha, I love that they're teaming up and talking about 'our son' and Regina's teaching Emma magic and everything! All my hopes and dreams!

NHF Robin Hood being her Twu Wuv, tho, wtf, writers. Why do they always ignore the pairings with chemistry and an organic base for the relationship in favor of super massively forced, shoehorned-in pairings?!

bullshit seems to have been planned at the last second and was so poorly executed

THIS IS WHY I RAEGQUIT THE SHOW. It's so obvious they don't care about putting effort into their writing, like, if the actors weren't so fabulous, there wouldn't be a show around because it's certainly not the plot/characterization getting them viewers!

t precious (wimpy, ugly, cowardly) Neal is in Neverland to try to get back with the woman he abandoned and put in jail 'cause Pinnochio told him to

YOUR SHADE IS GLORIOUS AND TRUE. I hate that they are pushing Neal as a viable romantic partner after he randomly abandoned her to prison for his crime based on something a complete stranger said! WHY. IS. THIS. A. THING. The het bias is so ridic.
Sylwia (sill-vee-uh): 07 megaraunnecessary_ on October 29th, 2013 01:18 am (UTC)
I feel relieved by Jennifer's statement. Ginnifer has broken my heart countless times.

I have been very excited about Mulan being bisexual, especially because I'm bisexual and I need bisexuality represented in everything. I took the last scene of that episode as blatant canon that will be built upon through the remainder of the series, with my hopes that Mulan remains bisexual but has true love with a female (my hope would be EMMA, actually, because I don't feel any connection between Emma and any of the males nor do I ship Swan Queen because I prefer to ship canon [if it was canon I'd be into it]). HOWEVER I totally agree with you that on a show with intense romantic displays, it was way too little. BUT I like that at least it happened at all because I think there was no way that she was referring to Phillip. I can't even understand how anyone can argue it. That's just fans being biphobic and homophobic and in denial. BUT you're right that the writers should have made (and still can make) it so clear that the discussion would be moot.

So, to reiterate: you're right that it's too little, but I hope that we'll get a female love interest for her that will be blatant, and that this was just their initial set-up for it so that when Mulan does meet her female true love, we will have this scene as a prelude to it.
borg_princess: lizabeth-right or wrongborg_princess on November 13th, 2013 01:30 am (UTC)
Oh, bb, Ginny is the worst, I'm sorry she's gotten to you as well. It's just so disappointing/enraging seeing that attitude from people in the public spotlight, spreading their ignorance around and having their opinions canonized by followers, agh.

I'm glad that Mulan's characterization on the show was a positive for you, at least the writers made some people happy! Yeah, if there's an orientation as marginalized as lesbians on tv, it's bisexuals - the number of people going, 'But Mulan was in love with Phillip and now she's a lesbian, wtf makes me eyeroll so hard. OHNOES, THERE ARE ONLY TWO BINARY OPTIONS, NOTHING ELSE EXISTS, IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S A WHOLE SPECTRUM OF SEXUALITY OUT THERE.

I took the last scene of that episode as blatant canon that will be built upon through the remainder of the series, with my hopes that Mulan remains bisexual but has true love with a female

This would be lovely and I'd be on board with the writers again -although I'm not holding my breath, it'd be such a great affirmation of media's ability to move forward with the times and show greater representation and an accurate reflection of our society.

I think there was no way that she was referring to Phillip. I can't even understand how anyone can argue it. That's just fans being biphobic and homophobic and in denial

I'm with you here - like, I watched that scene and the Sleeping Warrior vibes were so far beyond subtextual, but unforch, with narrow-minded people or just those who are so straight-laced and can't see beyond their heternormative-colored glasses, this just wasn't enough to get through to them and it was reallydisappointing to me. I'd've squeed so hard for it being canon- although I'm NHF Mulan's heart being broken, nooooo!

Anyway, that was a long-winded way of saying I agree with you! I think we're both on the same page, just I'm being more cynical about it, but I'd love to be wrong! If this was setup for Mulan finding true love with another woman, I will explode with joy. :D
Sylwia (sill-vee-uh)unnecessary_ on November 14th, 2013 07:25 pm (UTC)
It has to be a set-up for that! It just has to be! I'm sad that we haven't seen Mulan since that episode but I hope that we see her soon and that all of this begins!

And I'm glad that you get that bisexuals are even more erased from everything, even though there are probably more of us in the world than anyone else. :O But people have to believe in us, first!!!